Tactics Ogre Notes: The Gods

Rough Introduction

At the beginning of the Tactics Ogre you are presented with a series of questions from the gods, that will effect your starting stats. It is worth noting, that for every “+” stat, there is an equal “-” stat effect, and that no matter what you choose you have a fixed total number of stat points (220). Below “the plan”, you’ll find the full list of stat effects of the answers, should you be interested in attempting a build yourself.

The stats that counter each other are:
STR (strength) vs AGI (agility)
VIT (vitality) vs DEX (dexterity)
INT (intelligence) vs HP (health)
MEN (mental) vs MP (mana)

These answers can also change the elements of certain story members (Vice, Kachua, Lans Hamilton, Guildus, Mildain, and Warren – basically the “starting party/guests”) – This can influence the ease of battle, but due to the complexity of tracking this alongside stats.

The main reason for changing the elements, is if there was a trend in enemies for damage/debuffs or allies for healing/buffs – (I haven’t looked for the patterns as of the writing of this) – I am including the element charts though for future reference.


The Plan?

For the initial test runs I plan to do a “AGI” focused character – as AGI is the only stat that cannot be modified by enemy tarot drops (Random Stat boosting drops). I may skip doing this if I find it lowers my damage output too much (due to lower STR). Dexterity is would be my secondary focus.

Rough Answers (Unoptimized)
Hahnela: Honor , Peace , Revenge (+4 AGI, +2 Dex)
Zoshonell: Reign , Love , Flourish (+6 AGI, +6 Dex)
Bartha: Glory , Sacrifice , Hatred (+3 AGI, +3 Dex)
Gurza: Ideal , Victory , Hope (+1 AGI, +1 Dex)

Important Notes
AGI -> directly influences turn order ( WT = 510 – AGI + WT from class & equipment ), Accuracy/Evasion
DEX -> effects hit rates of both Physical and Magical Attacks, and boosts physical damage
STR -> effects physical damage (and special skill damage), and increases resistance to physical damage
VIT -> effects resistance to physical and magic damage

MP is almost useless in this game unless you are chaining a lot of expensive spells (it recharges slowly in battle) – I may look at dropping a lot of MP to boost the MEN stat in the future (don’t think MP can become negative… so it may be a way to break the 220 rule – as it is the only stat that can be pushed to/below zero)

Base stats
HP: 68, MP: 4
STR: 27
VIT: 25
INT: 26
MEN: 24
AGI: 20
DEX: 26


The Gods (Stats)

Plus/Minus points indicated for each choice, yes there is a pattern. If you are focusing on a given stat, use the sorting option to prioritize that one.


HAHNELA

PRAY
No Effect ( Reign, Glory, Love, Victory, Flourish, Hope )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Peace-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Honor-3-1+1+1+3-1-1-1
Hatred-3-3-1+1+3+3+1-1
Sacrifice-1-1-1-1+1+1+1+1
Ideal-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Revenge-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3

OFFER
No Effect ( Peace, Honor, Hatred, Sacrifice, Ideal, Revenge )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Reign-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Glory+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1
Love+3+3+1-1-3-3-1+1
Victory+1+3+3+1-1-3-3-1
Flourish-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Hope+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1

VOW
No Effect ( Reign, Glory, Love, Victory, Vow, Hope )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Peace+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1
Honor-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1
Hatred-1-3-3-1+1+3+3+1
Sacrifice+1-1-3-3-1+1+3+3
Ideal+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1
Revenge-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1


ZOSHONELL

PRAY
No Effect ( Peace, Honor, Hatred, Sacrifice, Ideal, Revenge )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Reign-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3
Glory-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1
Love+1+1+1+1-1-1-1-1
Victory-1+1+3+3+1-1-3-3
Flourish-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3
Hope-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1

OFFER
No Effect ( Reign, Glory, Love, Victory, Vow, Hope )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Peace+3+3+1-1-3-3-1+1
Honor+1+1+1+1-1-1-1-1
Hatred+1-1-1-1-1+1+1+1
Sacrifice+3+1-1-3-3-1+1+3
Ideal+3+3+1-1-3-3-1+1
Revenge+1+1+1+1-1-1-1-1

VOW
No Effect ( Peace, Honor, Hatred, Sacrifice, Ideal, Revenge )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Reign-3-3-1+1+3+3+1-1
Glory-1-3-3-1+1+3+3+1
Love+1-1-1-1-1+1+1+1
Victory-1-1+1+1+1+1-1-1
Flourish-3-3-1+1+3+3+1-1
Hope-1-3-3-1+1+3+3+1


BARTHA

PRAY
No Effect ( Reign, Glory, Love, Victory, Flourish, Hope )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Peace-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Honor-3-1+1+1+3-1-1-1
Hatred-3-3-1+1+3+3+1-1
Sacrifice-1-1-1-1+1+1+1+1
Ideal-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Revenge-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3

OFFER
No Effect ( Peace, Honor, Hatred, Sacrifice, Ideal, Revenge )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Reign-1-1-1-1+1+1+1+1
Glory+1-1-3-3-1+1+3+3
Love+3+1-1-3-3-1+1+3
Victory+1+1+1-1-1-1-1+1
Flourish-1-1-1-1+1+1+1+1
Hope+1-1-3-3-1+1+3+3

VOW
No Effect ( Reign, Glory, Love, Victory, Vow, Hope )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Peace-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Honor-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3
Hatred-3-3-1+1+3+3+1-1
Sacrifice-1-1-1-1+1+1+1+1
Ideal-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Revenge-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3


GURZA

PRAY
No Effect ( Peace, Honor, Hatred, Sacrifice, Ideal, Revenge )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Reign-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Glory+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1
Love+3+3+1-1-3-3-1+1
Victory+1+3+3+1-1-3-3-1
Flourish-1+1+1+1+1-1-1-1
Hope+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1

OFFER
No Effect ( Reign, Glory, Love, Victory, Vow, Hope )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Peace+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1
Honor-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1
Hatred-1-3-3-1+1+3+3+1
Sacrifice+1-1-3-3-1+1+3+3
Ideal+1+1-1-1-1-1+1+1
Revenge-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1

VOW
No Effect ( Peace, Honor, Hatred, Sacrifice, Ideal, Revenge )

 STRVITINTMENAGIDEXHPMP
Reign-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3
Glory-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1
Love+1+1+1+1-1-1-1-1
Victory-1+1+3+3+1-1-3-3
Flourish-3-1+1+3+3+1-1-3
Hope-1-1-1+1+1+1+1-1


The Gods (Elements)

Add Up the instances of the given element with your selections, highest number determines the element (in the case of ties, it’s randomly assigned between tied elements)


HAHNELA

PRAY

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
PeaceFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
GloryEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
HonorWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Love-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HatredWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
VictoryFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
SacrificeEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
FlourishWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Ideal-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HopeWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
RevengeFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth

OFFER

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
PeaceWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Glory-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HonorWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
LoveFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
HatredEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
VictoryWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Sacrifice-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
FlourishWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
IdealFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
HopeEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
RevengeWater-WindFireEarthWater-

VOW

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
Reign-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
PeaceWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
GloryFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
HonorEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
LoveWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Hatred-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
VictoryWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
SacrificeFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
FlourishEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
IdealWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Hope-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
RevengeWindFireEarthWater-WindFire


ZOSHONELL

PRAY

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
PeaceEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
GloryWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Honor-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
LoveWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
HatredFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
VictoryEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
SacrificeWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Flourish-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
IdealWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
HopeFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
RevengeEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater

OFFER

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Peace-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
GloryWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
HonorFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
LoveEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
HatredWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Victory-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
SacrificeWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
FlourishFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
IdealEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
HopeWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Revenge-WindFireEarthWater-Wind

VOW

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
PeaceFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
GloryEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
HonorWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Love-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HatredWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
VictoryFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
SacrificeEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
FlourishWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Ideal-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HopeWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
RevengeFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth


BARTHA

PRAY

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignEarth Water - WindFireEarthWater
PeaceWater- WindFireEarthWater-
Glory- WindFireEarthWater- Wind
HonorWindFireEarthWater- WindFire
LoveFireEarthWater- WindFireEarth
HatredEarthWater- WindFireEarthWater
VictoryWater- WindFireEarthWater-
Sacrifice- WindFireEarthWater- Wind
FlourishWindFireEarthWater- WindFire
IdealFireEarthWater- WindFireEarth
HopeEarthWater- WindFireEarthWater
RevengeWater- WindFireEarthWater-

OFFER

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
Reign-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
PeaceWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
GloryFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
HonorEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
LoveWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Hatred-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
VictoryWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
SacrificeFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
FlourishEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
IdealWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Hope-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
RevengeWindFireEarthWater-WindFire

VOW

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
PeaceEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
GloryWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Honor-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
LoveWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
HatredFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
VictoryEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
SacrificeWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Flourish-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
IdealWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
HopeFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
RevengeEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater


GURZA

PRAY

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Peace-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
GloryWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
HonorFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
LoveEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
HatredWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Victory-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
SacrificeWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
FlourishFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
IdealEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
HopeWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Revenge-WindFireEarthWater-Wind

OFFER

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
PeaceFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
GloryEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
HonorWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Love-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HatredWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
VictoryFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
SacrificeEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
FlourishWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Ideal-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HopeWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
RevengeFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth

VOW

 KachuaViceLansWarrenCanopusMildainGuildus
ReignEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
PeaceWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Glory-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
HonorWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
LoveFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
HatredEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
VictoryWater-WindFireEarthWater-
Sacrifice-WindFireEarthWater-Wind
FlourishWindFireEarthWater-WindFire
IdealFireEarthWater-WindFireEarth
HopeEarthWater-WindFireEarthWater
RevengeWater-WindFireEarthWater-


References:
GameFAQs ( gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/198881-tactics-ogre/faqs )
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together ( luct.tacticsogre.com )

Progress on Tactics Ogre Walkthrough

Recording issues are the main reason the PSX version of Tactics Ogre has been on hiatus for those wondering, now that I have things set up how I want them, I can get back into doing that (though I will need to do some things from scratch, I still have my initial notes) – obviously it’s easier to make notes postmortem from a recording – since I can pause while watching footage back, rather than documenting while trying to play (which is draining as hell).

That said, I do have rough pathing done, notes on how to obtain each of the characters for varied endings, etc. – even have an order of the 3 major branches to cover them… trick is testing theories on them all to make it more fluid for a final guide.

I may do a semi-casual playthrough prior to this on the channel… we’ll see if time allows.